Comments on: Clean and glossy in fresh CP Rail paint, the crew of MLW RS-18 CP 8790 awaits clearance to take their train eastward to Montreal one afternoon in the winter of 1970-71. Behind it is a CP MLW FB or FB-2. The posture of the crewman on the left is expressive, and his hat would go well with a steam engine. Some years previously, the tunnel from Trois-Riviers station to the between-tracks platform had been sealed off. http://www.railpictures.ca The BEST Canadian photos on the Internet, eh? Wed, 13 May 2026 21:22:20 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.1 By: jp4pix http://www.railpictures.ca/?attachment_id=34431#comment-28348 jp4pix Wed, 22 Aug 2018 03:07:55 +0000 http://www.railpictures.ca/wp-content/uploads/2018/08/cp8790_TroisRivieresQC1970L.jpg#comment-28348 For CP road switchers, whether maroon & grey or multimark, the colour scheme is directional, multimark or wrap-around maroon at the back. Plus the "F" is usually big enough to see! CN paint schemes don't have this directionality, and the FL/FR are smaller print or not visible at all. On closer inspection, the only high-short-hood CN roadswitchers I've found with controls setup for short hood forward are 10 GP9 units CN 4602-4611 acquired from the Northern Alberta Railway. (ex)NAR GMD-1 also short hood fwd. Apart from crash safety - if the loco is setup for long hood forward, when running in reverse the view forward is slightly better (though uncomfortable) so maybe less need to wye the engine. Downsides when running long hood forward include limited forward visibility and more chance of exhaust fumes in the cab. For CP road switchers, whether maroon & grey or multimark, the colour scheme is directional, multimark or wrap-around maroon at the back. Plus the “F” is usually big enough to see! CN paint schemes don’t have this directionality, and the FL/FR are smaller print or not visible at all. On closer inspection, the only high-short-hood CN roadswitchers I’ve found with controls setup for short hood forward are 10 GP9 units CN 4602-4611 acquired from the Northern Alberta Railway. (ex)NAR GMD-1 also short hood fwd.
Apart from crash safety – if the loco is setup for long hood forward, when running in reverse the view forward is slightly better (though uncomfortable) so maybe less need to wye the engine. Downsides when running long hood forward include limited forward visibility and more chance of exhaust fumes in the cab.

]]> By: ngineered4u http://www.railpictures.ca/?attachment_id=34431#comment-28266 ngineered4u Sat, 18 Aug 2018 14:30:46 +0000 http://www.railpictures.ca/wp-content/uploads/2018/08/cp8790_TroisRivieresQC1970L.jpg#comment-28266 Ok thx will do. Ok thx will do.

]]> By: First954 http://www.railpictures.ca/?attachment_id=34431#comment-28265 First954 Sat, 18 Aug 2018 14:22:32 +0000 http://www.railpictures.ca/wp-content/uploads/2018/08/cp8790_TroisRivieresQC1970L.jpg#comment-28265 ngineered4u....Check out long hood leading views of 3151, 3154 and 3155. Click on the 1200x800 to view a larger size image. The FL and FR indication is there just in front of the "caution no footboards." ngineered4u….Check out long hood leading views of 3151, 3154 and 3155. Click on the 1200×800 to view a larger size image. The FL and FR indication is there just in front of the “caution no footboards.”

]]> By: ngineered4u http://www.railpictures.ca/?attachment_id=34431#comment-28264 ngineered4u Sat, 18 Aug 2018 13:41:48 +0000 http://www.railpictures.ca/wp-content/uploads/2018/08/cp8790_TroisRivieresQC1970L.jpg#comment-28264 @First954. I could not find those units on the website and any other photos i checked on Google only show "Caution no footboard" @First954. I could not find those units on the website and any other photos i checked on Google only show “Caution no footboard”

]]> By: ngineered4u http://www.railpictures.ca/?attachment_id=34431#comment-28263 ngineered4u Sat, 18 Aug 2018 13:36:17 +0000 http://www.railpictures.ca/wp-content/uploads/2018/08/cp8790_TroisRivieresQC1970L.jpg#comment-28263 Thx Mr.Dan. I have been up inside the Tempo units when I was a brakeman, I had forgotten about the dual control stand :-) Thx Mr.Dan. I have been up inside the Tempo units when I was a brakeman, I had forgotten about the dual control stand :-)

]]> By: First954 http://www.railpictures.ca/?attachment_id=34431#comment-28262 First954 Sat, 18 Aug 2018 13:07:46 +0000 http://www.railpictures.ca/wp-content/uploads/2018/08/cp8790_TroisRivieresQC1970L.jpg#comment-28262 CN considered the long hood as the front of the Tempo units. There are a couple of good photos on cnrphotos.com which clearly show FR or FL on the long hood end. CN considered the long hood as the front of the Tempo units. There are a couple of good photos on cnrphotos.com which clearly show FR or FL on the long hood end.

]]> By: MrDan http://www.railpictures.ca/?attachment_id=34431#comment-28261 MrDan Sat, 18 Aug 2018 13:01:51 +0000 http://www.railpictures.ca/wp-content/uploads/2018/08/cp8790_TroisRivieresQC1970L.jpg#comment-28261 The Tempo RS18's were bi-directional (had two control stands) for operation in both directions. I suppose after finishing a run in one direction, it made it easy to run the unit to the other end of the train and run in the other direction. The Tempo RS18′s were bi-directional (had two control stands) for operation in both directions. I suppose after finishing a run in one direction, it made it easy to run the unit to the other end of the train and run in the other direction.

]]> By: Mike Lockwood http://www.railpictures.ca/?attachment_id=34431#comment-28257 Mike Lockwood Sat, 18 Aug 2018 03:25:35 +0000 http://www.railpictures.ca/wp-content/uploads/2018/08/cp8790_TroisRivieresQC1970L.jpg#comment-28257 The Tempo units were designated long hood forward: http://www.cnrphotos.com/gallery2/main.php?g2_itemId=8688&g2_imageViewsIndex=1 The Tempo units were designated long hood forward:

http://www.cnrphotos.com/gallery2/main.php?g2_itemId=8688&g2_imageViewsIndex=1

]]> By: ngineered4u http://www.railpictures.ca/?attachment_id=34431#comment-28255 ngineered4u Sat, 18 Aug 2018 01:57:05 +0000 http://www.railpictures.ca/wp-content/uploads/2018/08/cp8790_TroisRivieresQC1970L.jpg#comment-28255 Actually the practice of long hood forward was practiced by most railroads as the dieselized, especially by N&W and Southern. It was to protect the crews in case of a collision. In steam days they had the entire length of the locomotive to give them some protection (although crews could die from being scalded). The long hood of the diesel was thought to offer better protection. Actually the practice of long hood forward was practiced by most railroads as the dieselized, especially by N&W and Southern. It was to protect the crews in case of a collision. In steam days they had the entire length of the locomotive to give them some protection (although crews could die from being scalded). The long hood of the diesel was thought to offer better protection.

]]> By: Extra 1014 http://www.railpictures.ca/?attachment_id=34431#comment-28254 Extra 1014 Sat, 18 Aug 2018 01:39:16 +0000 http://www.railpictures.ca/wp-content/uploads/2018/08/cp8790_TroisRivieresQC1970L.jpg#comment-28254 The variation I have always found interesting on this subject is that the CP trainmasters started out long hood forward. That's a whole lot of hood out the front. It didn't last, they were converted to short hood forward not long after they went into service. If I remember correct, a few even had a wide short nose to accomadate more steam generation. The variation I have always found interesting on this subject is that the CP trainmasters started out long hood forward. That’s a whole lot of hood out the front. It didn’t last, they were converted to short hood forward not long after they went into service. If I remember correct, a few even had a wide short nose to accomadate more steam generation.

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