Comments on: CP 8797-8793 head up what is now CP’s Hamilton Sub. toward Guelph Jct. According to Paul Duncan’s web site, this may have been the Goderich Sub at the time when this picture was taken. I am hoping that I got the geotagging correct as it is hard to pinpoint today with all of the vegetation growth covering landmarks on google maps. I believe the railing that you see in the middle of the picture is the lookout at what is now the McQueston plaque off York Blvd. in Hamilton.

By: RonaldB

RonaldB — Thu, 08 Jul 2021 03:18:07 +0000

I saw this pic again & another thought about CP London crews booking rest at Aberdeen, came up. I was looking at my old timebooks and recall that crews who did book rest sometimes woke up in the morning to find enough London bound freight for almost 2 trains. If there was a bit over tonnage rating of units, they’d shoot you out of there and you’d run until you stalled, then double to Waterdown North. But if there was a lot over, you’d run half to Guelph Jct & come back van hop for the rest. That was a good deal for crews, they got an extra day for that Guelph Jct turn out of Aberdeen.

By: Stephen C. Host

Stephen C. Host — Tue, 11 Feb 2020 00:53:01 +0000

This is great information. Things I didn’t know Great work gang.

Anyone get an answer to that ‘second track’ beside the cowpath? I bet asking Mr. Doug Page might get an answer..

By: RonaldB

RonaldB — Mon, 10 Feb 2020 20:05:32 +0000

Oops, this link..I got it wrong too. http://www.railpictures.ca/?attachment_id=28250

By: RonaldB

RonaldB — Mon, 10 Feb 2020 20:03:56 +0000

Somehow I forgot to come back and reply to your last posts on this, so here I am back after a few months. One link you posted shows the standard AAR Type B truck on the 3887 and the lightweight on the trailing unit 3679. The casting itself is different on the lightweight as well as the absence of a leaf spring as you mentioned. http://www.railpictures.ca/?attachment_id=35277

By: Dave Burroughs

Dave Burroughs — Thu, 19 Sep 2019 03:38:54 +0000

Oops, wrong URL for the lightweight. Should be this one.
http://www.railpictures.ca/?attachment_id=35277

By: Dave Burroughs

Dave Burroughs — Thu, 19 Sep 2019 03:35:23 +0000

OK, I think I have it now. Basically, if you see 4 coil springs and no leaf spring, it should be a lightweight truck. Here is a good example of what I am talking about regarding the 4 coil springs.
http://www.railpictures.ca/?attachment_id=28249
And would this would be an example of the standard trucks with the leaf spring and 4 coil springs exposed?
http://www.railpictures.ca/?attachment_id=28250

By: RonaldB

RonaldB — Thu, 19 Sep 2019 03:21:57 +0000

Regarding the lightweight trucks, Dave your photo of CN 3874/3201 near Bayview clearly illustrates the difference of what they look like externally. Some CN units were built with the lightweight truck but so far as I know CP only had them as built, on part of the RS-23 order. Since they are interchangeable with AAR Type B trucks, they sometimes ended up on any MLW units including cab units. The theory was that they rode rough so if possible they were not to be put under the cab end of the unit if possible.That seems to have given way to convenience though & they’ve ended up on either end.Once you start looking at photos there are plenty of examples. There’s a bit more info on Page 107 of “Canadian Pacific Diesel Locomotives” by Murray Dean/David Hanna if you have or can locate a copy.

By: Dave Burroughs

Dave Burroughs — Thu, 19 Sep 2019 00:25:29 +0000

Ron, educate us all with regard to the lightweight trucks please. The only possible difference I think I see is no leaf spring in the truck under the trailing unit cab.

Thanks…

By: RonaldB

RonaldB — Wed, 18 Sep 2019 03:27:08 +0000

I took another look at this & I note it looks like the trailing unit has a ‘lightweight’ truck under the cab. This happened with the older MLWs, not so common on RS-18s though.

By: Dave Burroughs

Dave Burroughs — Sun, 20 Jan 2019 04:42:43 +0000

Thanks Ronald for the info especially about the crew booking rest. That is something that I did not know.