Comments on: I’m down by the PCHR (now GIO-Trillium) connector mile 18 or so just west of the Welland canal; and the westbound #321 is rolling by with Chessie B&O 6210 and CSX 6852. I didn’t see many of these ‘stealth’ type paints along this line. On the right, distant, you can see a CN local on the way.

By: awmooney

awmooney — Sun, 27 Mar 2022 13:00:38 +0000

I guess I will put this to the back of my noggin’ that next time down that way to check the area out and get my proper bearings. )

By: Mark MacCauley

Mark MacCauley — Sat, 26 Mar 2022 23:43:57 +0000

It also took me a few double takes to wonder about it! I’ve been wanting to see a shot of this seen for some time though, very neat to see!

By: jknott86

jknott86 — Sat, 26 Mar 2022 23:31:00 +0000

Honestly Arnold, like I said, I thought it was too. Very easy to see this scene as the one at Feeder Road!

Not until Mark mentioned anything did I start to dig around. Learned a bit along the way too.

By: awmooney

awmooney — Sat, 26 Mar 2022 23:21:31 +0000

I thought that was Feeder Rd in the pic, now deadended. Whatever. Hey, I’m allowed to screw up. )
Thanks guys.

By: Mark MacCauley

Mark MacCauley — Sat, 26 Mar 2022 23:12:46 +0000

Would there not be a signal bridge closer Arnold? It was your shot at Feeder taken a month before this one that helped convince me this was near Phillips road:

http://www.railpictures.ca/upload/usa-bound-chessie-train-320-with-bo-6243-and-8261-up-front-approaching-welland-canal-tunnel-in-late-afternoon

By: jknott86

jknott86 — Sat, 26 Mar 2022 23:12:08 +0000

I fully thought this was mile 18 but I do think Mark is right as I’ve done some more digging since his comment.

I will offer a couple more points..

The pole behind 6852 and the wire that ends at that pole is the same setup as the pole/wire at that location on Phillips now visible on streetview.

Around mile 18, there is one signal bridge on the west side of Feeder Road and one signal bridge on the east side of Feeder road. Whereas this image shows two on one side of the crossing, so I think it has to rule out mile 18.

On satellite view at Phillips you can see the ROW for the track at right of this image curving off to the NE for Vesuvius, as Mark says. (i didn’t even really realize that ROW existed until now)

By: awmooney

awmooney — Sat, 26 Mar 2022 22:47:30 +0000

This image is around mile 18 or so and Welland yard is about 21 or so.
Where I am standing is near what used to be a street over the track but was cut many years ago.
The track at the bottom right goes into a GIO yard I refer to as the one I cannot get to.

By: jknott86

jknott86 — Sat, 26 Mar 2022 22:34:07 +0000

I think you’re right Mark. The guardrails at left of the photo are akin to those at thr crossing on Phillips to this day.

By: Mark MacCauley

Mark MacCauley — Sat, 26 Mar 2022 22:20:21 +0000

I wonder if I may offer an alternate location for this shot. Might this be the east end of Welland yard? With the track on the right being the remanence of the original line into Welland. I’d assume at this time it would’ve been the line into Vesuvius and maybe transfers to WH yard in Welland.

In this case, the crossing would make sense for Phillips road. In addition to the seemingly black signal bridges like the ones near the Welland Yard office.

By: Klaucker

Klaucker — Fri, 25 Mar 2022 20:44:06 +0000

Arnold…I think there was leftover Battleship grey paint that got repurposed for the Blah Blah CSX scheme.. I agree…you can’t beat The Cat, especially through the Falls and definitely St Thomas