Comments on: In response to Mark’s comment concerning his own view of Yager area in comparison to one 20+ years previously; I offer up this. Note “CN Yager W”. This leg which completed the wye was torn up many years ago. Location can be identified by checking Mark’s photo as the hydro pole is still there today. This image shows CN 3572 and 3575 with a rail train heading back to Niagara Falls. These battle-worn M-420s were on their last legs with CN, the following year 3572 went to NRE and the 3575 to Trillium.

By: awmooney

awmooney — Sat, 04 Apr 2020 23:34:25 +0000

Glad you have it figured out. I knew the Jct was close, thats about it. So many changes and the spiderweb of track is confusing enough at times.

By: railwayguy

railwayguy — Sat, 04 Apr 2020 22:15:56 +0000

All right, figured it out ! CN Yager is east of the “new” Welland Canal diversion to the east of Welland, and the old CNR Welland Jct was west of the “new” Welland Canal, in Dain City, just to the east of the former Welland Canal that went through downtown Welland. So Yager is, as you noted, at least 2 to maybe 4 miles east of Dain City and the old site of CNR Welland Jct Station.

By: awmooney

awmooney — Fri, 03 Apr 2020 20:36:21 +0000

railwayguy: I’m not really qualified to answer your queries, as Welland Jct sta was before my time, but I thought it was a few miles of here.
Hopefully someone will chime in with the answer.
The line went north and eventually Clifton Jct., yes, because that was the route of this rail train. It overnighted at Niagara Falls CN yard.
I remember the old NS&T track in weeds, but do not know when it was pulled up. Don’t think there is any sign of it now along Elm.
New PCHR track went down commencing around the end of May 1997. Old CN station re-roofed around that time as well. And bridge removed.

By: railwayguy

railwayguy — Fri, 03 Apr 2020 13:58:13 +0000

Most interesting Arnold, now where was CNR Welland Jct Station building located in this picture ? It looks to me that the rail train is curving off the old Canada Air Line and heading northward on to the old Humberstone line heading to Welland and eventually Clifton Jct. . Is this correct ? Thanks for confirming the date the NS&T Humberstone Ave (Elm St ? ) was officially replaced by the “new” PCHR track north along the west side of the Welland Canal past the ex-Robin Hood Mill elevator. What happened to the old NS&T rail removed from Elm?
Thanks to you and Mark for sharing.

By: awmooney

awmooney — Fri, 03 Apr 2020 12:58:23 +0000

Thats right. Not far off “opening time” at the old PCHR. (official opening July 2, 1997)

By: Klaucker

Klaucker — Fri, 03 Apr 2020 12:41:00 +0000

Arnold, I assume that rail was what was needed to lay down the connecting line from the CN Port Colborne Train station to Robin Hood along the Weir (3rd Canal)?!? Looks like they are returning to N. Falls with what was not needed.

By: Mark MacCauley

Mark MacCauley — Fri, 03 Apr 2020 04:24:51 +0000

That’s really neat to see, thanks for sharing Arnold! I love seeing what the angle looked like 23 years ago, and I love seeing that rail train wrapped around that shallow leg of the wye. Very cool, if CN sent a rail train here today, not much could stop me from trying to replicate this haha.