Comments on: JLCX 3502 is pictured working the Clearwater Paper warehouse at the end of the former NS&T in St. Catharines Ontario. Rumour has it (As per Mr. Mooney) 3502 is off lease.

By: NiagaraMike11

NiagaraMike11 — Wed, 09 Nov 2022 02:09:49 +0000

LDSX 4003 made the run to St Catharines today!

By: Stephen C. Host

Stephen C. Host — Tue, 08 Nov 2022 14:09:03 +0000

4003 is LDSX 4003. A photo hasn’t been posted yet. I saw it at LDS a month ago.

GMTX 333 has left, they waited to find a customer for it so it was only shipped once. (why pay twice.. it’s like 20 grand to ship a locomotive)

it’s in quebec somewhere per trace

By: BradKetchen

BradKetchen — Tue, 08 Nov 2022 09:09:42 +0000

Great thread! @jamesknott..what locomotive is 4003? Any photos? @Stephenhost has GMTX 333 left Streetsville?

By: Stephen C. Host

Stephen C. Host — Mon, 07 Nov 2022 23:48:58 +0000

Great observations. Lease returns can be funny business because lease companies don’t just take them back, they like to have a destination first, shipping locomotives is big money. It all depends on the contract too, as the lessee may not want the liability of hosting it.

We’ll just have to wait and see.

The GMTX 333 from Orangeville is a good example, it seems it waited for GMTX To find a new contract for it then it shipped direct. But it was “off the property” so no longer OBRY responsibility (would be GMTX responsibility and/or CP at that point)

Sometimes they linger a while.. storage costs are also a thing..

By: jknott86

jknott86 — Mon, 07 Nov 2022 18:31:03 +0000

Passed by Feeder yesterday. The guys were tying down new arrival 4003 after doing some work. 1859 was next up, followed by the new SW. After this, the caboose, and finally 3502. If it’s off lease shouldn’t they be returning it?

By: Stephen C. Host

Stephen C. Host — Sun, 06 Nov 2022 15:39:42 +0000

You can bet they most certainly tried to get it but lost to Raillink….

By: BradKetchen

BradKetchen — Sun, 06 Nov 2022 14:18:48 +0000

Great read and history @Stephenhost. But what was the significance of the ‘Caledonia and Hamilton Southern’? It sounds like they operated the CN Hagersville sub.

By: Stephen C. Host

Stephen C. Host — Sun, 06 Nov 2022 14:14:27 +0000

As for corporate and structure before the Trillium they were the ‘Caledonia and Hamilton Southern’

https://www.cfontario.ca/index.php/success-stories/450-entrepreneurs/archives/1343-locomotive-passion-becomes-a-reality

By: Stephen C. Host

Stephen C. Host — Sun, 06 Nov 2022 13:31:24 +0000

Aha.. I can never remembered who owns what.

The Port Huron dunn plant closes very soon, this month

By: NiagaraMike11

NiagaraMike11 — Sun, 06 Nov 2022 11:59:33 +0000

Time will tell.
The paper company is now Dunn Paper not Clearwater!