Comments on: Six axle MLW C630-M 2005 built 1967 with MLW C-424 3233 are headed toward Hamilton with a load of ore destined for Dofasco. These standard hopper cars would be replaced later with cylindrical hopper cars which had two wheels on top which looked like they came off a wheelbarrow. The wheels were used to open the top doors for loading iron ore pellets which originated at the Sherman Mine in Temagami.

By: Dave Brook

Dave Brook — Thu, 01 Feb 2024 01:37:08 +0000

IIRC, the U868, U869 numbers were the late 70′s(from peaking through the Condcutors timetable on the Northlnader). It was 730, 731 when I was hired on in 1981.

By: Dave Burroughs

Dave Burroughs — Wed, 14 Jul 2021 11:52:13 +0000

Bruce, entirely possible but if you read the comments posted by Bruce Mercer, he thinks it was Jan 21. I am more inclined to say that his notes are more accurate than mine. It was not until 1970 that I started logging rather than tagging the slides when I got them back from processing.

By: bruce

bruce — Wed, 14 Jul 2021 04:26:59 +0000

Would this be taken on the New Year’s Day when everybody got together at Bayview.

By: ngineered4u

ngineered4u — Thu, 04 Oct 2018 16:25:28 +0000

Ore trains 730/731 did indeed go to the “bayfront” at Dafasco and yes at that point they did have a mix of CN and ONR short cylindrical hoppers.

By: Dave Burroughs

Dave Burroughs — Thu, 04 Oct 2018 14:41:29 +0000

Bruce, you could be right, late January. I wonder where I got the idea that these trains were headed for Dofasco. Maybe after the cylindrical hoppers came into service. I have pictures of the ore train down the N&NW at Dofasco.

By: mercer

mercer — Thu, 04 Oct 2018 14:03:23 +0000

The so-called ‘Dane’ ore trains ( from the Adams Mine on the ONR) were operated in a joint effort by ONR-CN-NYC-P&LE, to the Jones & Laughlin steel mill at Aliquipa PA. These began in mid1963 and continued into the early 80s. The train numbers were 448 from North Bay to Toronto; 449 Toronto to Ft Erie; 450 for empties from Ft Erie to Toronto; and 451 for the empties back to North Bay. Yes, I realize there was a Newmarket Sub merchandise freight numbered 451 at one point around 1970. At that time, the ‘Dane’ ore became simply 449 for the loads and 450 for empties.
Dave – I calculate the date of this photo as approximately Jan 21. In my notebook for Jan1968, I didn’t see this train, however, on Jan 19 I did see train 308 (Sarnia-Toronto) with these engines.

By: Dave Burroughs

Dave Burroughs — Thu, 04 Oct 2018 02:53:22 +0000

Nah! Arnold has many times the number of pics posted here than I have. Just trying to filter out some of the better compositions or subject matter and share them. Just wish I had used Kodachrome in the early days of my slide taking.

By: Dave Burroughs

Dave Burroughs — Thu, 04 Oct 2018 02:13:34 +0000

Bruce, I have the slide marked as 449. Thought it was 449/450. Rob, no show box, just dug into some of the slide trays. I seem to go in fits and starts. More coming.

By: ngineered4u

ngineered4u — Wed, 03 Oct 2018 21:39:20 +0000

@snake..it seems they changed the numbers frequently. When i ran them to Hamilton from Jane St they were 730/731

By: Snake2

Snake2 — Wed, 03 Oct 2018 21:36:34 +0000

U868 / U869 was the ore train at some point