Comments on: CN 8804 left Port Robinson with a cut of cars destined for Southern Yard. Unable to take a picture, we headed to Southern Yard to find him switching. After setting cars off, local 562 lifted some cars and headed toward Fort Erie and is seen here at the northern switch of the wye at CN Yager.

By: Dave Burroughs

Dave Burroughs — Mon, 17 Jun 2019 03:29:17 +0000

Thanks for the additional information regarding this train. Nice to have the detailed description.

By: jknott86

jknott86 — Mon, 17 Jun 2019 02:39:45 +0000

Following up on this, yes CN and CP definitely interchange at Southern Yard, and very regularly at that. In addition to interchanging with Trillium at Feeder, 562 drops traffic for CP in Southern Yard daily (very rarely does it not run, but there is the odd time it does not) and CP TE11 goes to Southern Yard most every weekday from Welland Yard. Most of the interchange traffic I believe is for Innophos in Port Maitland, but I’ve also seen traffic for CP customers in Niagara Falls (such as Washington Mills) and boxcars (perhaps for Smithville). You can definitely see Innophos and Washington Mills traffic on this TE11 I shot: http://www.railpictures.ca/?attachment_id=37328

563 is an older ID I believe and I have only heard it used once in present times. I believe it used to be the ID for the transfer to Feeder but now this train is exclusively called 562. I did catch one movement of a 563 – a night run down to Port Colborne (http://www.railpictures.ca/?attachment_id=37474). The other two times I have seen them run the Humberstone was in daylight as 562, after finishing the usual interchange work.

By: jknott86

jknott86 — Sat, 29 Sep 2018 23:26:33 +0000

It is a very interesting move indeed. Saw L562 today, heading from Southern Yard to Feeder Yard, via the Hamilton Sub. Fun stuff!

By: DoctaPinklaces

DoctaPinklaces — Tue, 25 Sep 2018 23:32:40 +0000

I’ve never seen the CP job on the move but I saw their power parked in Southern a few times

By: Dave Burroughs

Dave Burroughs — Tue, 25 Sep 2018 18:41:30 +0000

We heard the 8804 identity as CN562 when talking to the dispatcher to get a light out of Port Robinson.
I never though it might be heading for Feeder Yard. I stand corrected on its destination. I am not totally familiar with the operations in the Niagara Peninsula.

By: ljames86

ljames86 — Tue, 25 Sep 2018 17:10:55 +0000

This would be train, 563 heading to Feeder Yard via the West Robbins Wye, I believe. Martech is only serviced by CN, never seen a pipe load on CP trains or in Welland Yard. CP and CN interchange daily at Southern Yard, CN interchanges cars to CP for Port Maitland at the yard as well.

By: Snake2

Snake2 — Tue, 25 Sep 2018 14:29:27 +0000

ah, looking west from the highway…the old double track distinctive MCRR rails – main that runs no where; they industries on the north side

By: Stephen C. Host

Stephen C. Host — Tue, 25 Sep 2018 14:27:18 +0000

Old CASO branch that originates at Southern Yard and runs to a couple customers, one that makes plastic/vinyl piping. They have two switchers on-site, an ex Stelco GE and another blue/white one. Martech runs to/from southern yard with their own power.

By: Snake2

Snake2 — Tue, 25 Sep 2018 14:20:22 +0000

Where is Martech?

By: Dave Burroughs

Dave Burroughs — Tue, 25 Sep 2018 13:06:11 +0000

Good point Steve. CN562 brought cars from Port Rob that appeared to be heading for Martech. Would not be surprised that CP drops cars for Martech there as well.