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Something I didn't see very often, rarely, actually, was TH&B coming down the CP Waterdown Hill. I was doing the usual late day wander thru the area when I heard a train horn. Coming from the direction of Hamilton West. So I scurried off to this point, hoping to get a shot with the CN "JCT" sign in it. (CP and CN are almost side by side here)  And this was as best as I could do before this short train came into view. It is a bit dark on account it is past 1900 and the sun is behind the hill. But the image is certainly different.
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Caption: Something I didn't see very often, rarely, actually, was TH&B coming down the CP Waterdown Hill. I was doing the usual late day wander thru the area when I heard a train horn. Coming from the direction of Hamilton West. So I scurried off to this point, hoping to get a shot with the CN "JCT" sign in it. (CP and CN are almost side by side here) And this was as best as I could do before this short train came into view. It is a bit dark on account it is past 1900 and the sun is behind the hill. But the image is certainly different.

Photographer:
A.W.Mooney [2133] (more) (contact)
Date: 08/08/1979 (search)
Railway: Toronto Hamilton and Buffalo (search)
Reporting Marks: TH&B 402 (search)
Train Symbol: Junction Turn ? (search)
Subdivision/SNS: CP Goderich Sub. (search)
City/Town: Hamilton Jct (search)
Province: Ontario (search)
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7 Comments
  1. This is something I did not know about the TH & Bee (yes, I found that bee photo just a few days ago :-) ). that the GP9′s are long hood forward and GP7 ‘s are short hood forward. Nicely framed by the sign and building Arnold.

  2. It’s hard to picture this scene, because it was all gone by the time I came around. Almost looks like a quite rural station..

  3. Very cool stuff, Arnold. Here’s a well deserved Gold Star for you, Sir! More please. Oh… any Steam??

  4. Extra 1014: being one unit they wouldn’t have the choice unless they wyed the engine. But is this is a fact?

  5. I read this info in one of the captions on a different photo. Just went and checked it out at http://thbrailway.ca/ the TH&B railway historical society. They are also claiming that the 3 GP9′s 401 to 403 were constructed for long hood forward operation.

  6. Very cool shot!

  7. At this date, this train would have been the Goderich Job returning to Aberdeen. Those units worked that assignment a few times between August & October 1979.
    The pipe looks like a dimensional load, & likely came from Guelph Jct because CP “DLs” were not run over the CN/CP joint section. We had the opposite scenario with combines destined from Brantford to western Canada via TH&B & CP. They were taken up to Guelph Jct on either the Goderich job, or the Aberdeen Turn pool crew returning to London.If they were headed east or northwest, they were set off at the Jct, & lifted by an eastbound headed for Toronto on the Galt Sub.If they were going west to Quebec Street, the Aberdeen turn would handle them himself.
    To Brad Ketchen’s comment, the 400 series GP-9s were built as passenger units, set up to run long hood forward. They could be turned on the turntable at Goderich & there were 2 “wyes” at Guelph & 2 at Guelph Jct. if the Goderich job turned back at Guelph instead of going thru to Goderich which happened sometimes on Friday nights.

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