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Likely charging the air after doubling the outbound train together, the Starlight prepares to depart for Toronto Yard behind Penn Central GP7 5820, GP9 7429, and fairly new CP M636 4722. It looks like they weren't able to wye the power and had to change ends, since the CP unit likely led the train to Hamilton (which was normally the case when a CP unit was added to assist PC power).
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Caption: Likely charging the air after doubling the outbound train together, the Starlight prepares to depart for Toronto Yard behind Penn Central GP7 5820, GP9 7429, and fairly new CP M636 4722. It looks like they weren't able to wye the power and had to change ends, since the CP unit likely led the train to Hamilton (which was normally the case when a CP unit was added to assist PC power).

Photographer:
Doug Page [392] (more) (contact)
Date: 07/ /1970 (search)
Railway: Canadian Pacific (search)
Reporting Marks: PC 5820 (search)
Train Symbol: Starlight (search)
Subdivision/SNS: Aberdeen yard (search)
City/Town: Hamilton (search)
Province: Ontario (search)
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4 Comments
  1. I would of marked this train as Penn Central or TH&B instead of Canadian Pacific, but this is amazing. If you have any more PC shots please post em!

  2. That’s the thing – this train is departing Aberdeen Yard and would have had a CP crew to go from Aberdeen to Toronto. Calling it a CP train is likely correct.

    Can the experts from the era confirm how these trains were crewed when they ran from Toronto to Buffalo? My understanding is there were three crews to take a train to Buffalo and the train symbol would change each time.

  3. I’m not from the era, but that’s what the experts’ books say about the through train: crews were CP from Toronto to Hamilton, TH&B from Hamilton to Welland, and NYC/PC/Conrail from Welland to Buffalo. Typically, power alternated between TH&B and NYC/PC/CR, with CP providing the vans. This was symbol freight TF-1/FT-2 (T for Toronto, F for Frontier) until Conrail converted it to CPBU/BUCP.

    The through freights ran mostly overnight, so power laying over at either end was “borrowed” for other assignments during the day. This train, the “Starlight” (an afternoon Hamilton turn out of Toronto) often used the “foreign” power.

  4. The railway identification is based on who “owned” the train, regardless of track ownership, crewing. CP originated the Starlight at Toronto Yard and ran it over its own tracks, CN, and TH&B to Aberdeen Yard with a CP crew. I would consider the overnight “Kinnear”/TF-2/CPBU a CP train from Hamilton to Kinnear (CP also provided the crew), a TH&B train from Kinnear to Welland, and then an NYC/PC/CR train from Welland to Montrose (regardless of whether it was a TH&B crew or an NYC/PC/CR crew from Kinnear to Montrose or whose motive power)–think “who pays if this thing derails!” Note that TH&B and NYC/PC/CR shared the Kinnear (Hamilton)-Montrose (Niagara Falls, Ontario) work based on miles operated over each railway…The “TH&B line” passenger trains also had mileage sharing between TH&B and NYC/PC/CR. (CP always crewed Toronto-Hamilton.)

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