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In all of these years of railfanning I have only had the opportunity of following trains on the Hagersville subdivision a few times. Since CN gave up the line in the late 1990's most trains have traveled the north end of the line under the cover of darkness, now that CN is back again daylight moves are most common. I'm not totally sure why but the last couple of trains I have photographed along the line have only traveled at a painful 5-10 mph. I'm not sure if is due to the lack of an "end of train device" or due to the condition of the rails. Nevertheless it makes railfanning a lot easier. Here train 580 with a GP38 / SD75 combination are passing an old barn and some changing fall colours just southeast of Cainsville. I never realized the photo opportunities along this stretch of the line with some nice rolling hills and rural crossings. I will definitely try this again when I have more time and less cloud cover.
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Caption: In all of these years of railfanning I have only had the opportunity of following trains on the Hagersville subdivision a few times. Since CN gave up the line in the late 1990's most trains have traveled the north end of the line under the cover of darkness, now that CN is back again daylight moves are most common. I'm not totally sure why but the last couple of trains I have photographed along the line have only traveled at a painful 5-10 mph. I'm not sure if is due to the lack of an "end of train device" or due to the condition of the rails. Nevertheless it makes railfanning a lot easier. Here train 580 with a GP38 / SD75 combination are passing an old barn and some changing fall colours just southeast of Cainsville. I never realized the photo opportunities along this stretch of the line with some nice rolling hills and rural crossings. I will definitely try this again when I have more time and less cloud cover.

Photographer:
Marcus W Stevens [1030] (more) (contact)
Date: 09/28/2020 (search)
Railway: Canadian National (search)
Reporting Marks: GMTX 2323 (search)
Train Symbol: 580 (search)
Subdivision/SNS: Hagersville sub. (search)
City/Town: Cainsville (search)
Province: Ontario (search)
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12 Comments
  1. ngineered4u
    September 30, 2020 at 3:17 pm

    I don’t have a recent timetable for the Hagersville Sub at the moment, so can’t tell you if its track related or not.
    I can tell you that if there is no EOT/SBU/Marker then it is not considered a train. It is called a movement and as such the movement is restricted to 15mph on any track it travels on.

  2. Marcus Stevens
    September 30, 2020 at 4:12 pm

    Thanks for the clarification, I’m not sure if they went past Hagersville as the had no tank Cars.

  3. jknott86
    September 30, 2020 at 4:15 pm

    If they go above 10 the duct tape comes off. :D

  4. Jacob Patterson
    September 30, 2020 at 8:06 pm

    @Jamie: If they did it Red Green style they should have no problems. :-D

  5. Joseph Bishop
    September 30, 2020 at 11:12 pm

    The 10 per on the Hagersville was put in place as a blanket restriction for the entire line due to the heat that was being experienced over the summer.

    It should be lifted now, so if they were going slow then that was for a certain stretch of track only. They’ve been making fine time between Hagersvile and Brantford over the last few weeks that I have noted them running.

    580 also always uses and EOT on their runs these days, so there should be no issues surrounding that.

  6. Joseph Bishop
    September 30, 2020 at 11:15 pm

    Also, it is highly rare that 580 goes beyond Hagersville. They only do that IF necessary. 580′s duties are to switch CGC, they run into Hagersville, run around their train and then return to switch.

    They only do Garnet if 581 is unable to at night or they run out of time and need rescuing.

    581 is still doing the Brantford-Paris-Garnet-Paris-Brantford turn each night.

  7. Marcus Stevens
    October 1, 2020 at 12:27 am

    Thanks for all the information everyone, they definitely did not have an EOTD this day so that must have been the reason for the slow speed. They also had a CSX boxcar on the train, I can’t remember the last time I saw a boxcar on this line unless it also gets loaded with wallboard at Hagersville?

  8. Joseph Bishop
    October 1, 2020 at 6:59 am

    Boxcars go to Nicholson and Cates lumber in Caledonia for loading.

  9. Stephen C. Host
    October 1, 2020 at 3:10 pm

    If there is no working SBU they are deemed a “transfer” and must go transfer speed.

  10. ngineered4u
    October 1, 2020 at 4:02 pm

    There is no rule called transfer speed.

    Transfer: An engine with or without cars operating on main track at speeds not exceeding 15 MPH

    Train: An engine with or without cars intended to operate on main track at speeds in excess of 15 MPH or a track unit when so designated.

  11. Stephen C. Host
    October 1, 2020 at 5:57 pm

    Roger. Then I meant to say operating as a transfer.

  12. ngineered4u
    October 1, 2020 at 6:07 pm

    @Stephen…all good sir. I understood :-)

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