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Doug: This leader is the same unit that ended up on the D&H ??
Nice shot. It was great time, although short. The B unit reminds me that an ABBA set of Fs made it through as well.
Wow nice shot! Wish we had more foreign power running around on a more regular basic!
I find it hard to believe A-B-B-A Set of EL F’s would be forgettable
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How ‘short’ of a time did these detours last guys? Days? weeks?
Re: #4 from Arnold EL801-02-03 were ex EMD SD-45 demonstrators. I don’t know if they went to the D&H.
Re.#1 from Stephen checking my notebooks, the first detour I show was on June 25/72 and the last one was July 9/72 but I may have missed the actual first and last.
We had similar detours through Canada in 2006 – NS F328/9 usually with NS power (Buffalo to Montreal) in July 2006, and a handful of CSX re-routes (with a CP leader tacked on) via Windsor/Toronto/Montreal. I believe this group was due to major storm and flooding.
and a couple NS re-routes in 2011…. I believe these were due to a major derailment though.
Has to be pretty big for these to occur it would seem.
EL 803 started as ENDX 4345 and was purchased by the D&H (as were two others becoming 801 and 802). D&H 801-803 were not on the road long. When DERECO became the owner of both the D&H and the EL in 1968 (DERECO was owned by N&W as a way of isolating it from losses of roads it was ‘forced’ by the Interstate Commerce Commission to absorb), the D&H SD45′s were traded to EL for a like number of U36C’s, the EMD’s being orphans on the D&H roster and EL being a big user of 20 cylinder EMD’s.
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When EL was devastated by Hurricane Agnes, DERECO (N&W) ran for cover and both roads were cut loose to fend for themselves. If memory serves, EL 801-803 remained on the EL right up until the eve of Conrail, when the swap was reversed. Interestingly and totally unrelated, the EL’s SDP45′s were all returned to N&W by Conrail upon expiration of their 15 years leases as N&W had financed them.
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Doug, fantastic shot… EL is easily my favourite fallen flag.
The detours began on Jun25/72 and ended on July11/72. There were 75 trains in total, between CN and CP. Two of those trains were eastbound Lehigh Valley trains, on CN. I have a shot of the ABBA at Burlington, hope to get that scanned before I die…..o)).
Great shot here, DWH. It could pretty much pass as being anywhere on the E-L around Corning or Hornell. This is westbound E-L/N&W hotshot AP-1, a.k.a. ‘APOLLO’. It ran on N&W beyond Buffalo, to Chicago. Locos are 803-2570-7102-2563.
Doug, what vans (cabooses) did these trains have?
With regard to Steve Host mention of detours..I was working the CP Belleville Pool from 2004 until I retired in 2006. I don’t recall those. Is it possible the decade is wrong or were they on CN?
The NS detours were on CN. There were a couple CSX reroutes too on CP. Not many. I only shot one CSX (on CP) and two NS (on CN).The NS reroutes had pure NS power too.
Ronald; I have a photo of the vans on this train. An EL van and CP on behind it. The story at the time was that the EL van was deemed too dirty by the CP crew and they refused to ride in it.
Thanks Doug.
We’ve had certain collective agreement requirements for “run through” vans since the assigned vans were phased out. These included amenities & tools etc…that may also have been a factor.
Ron