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Not really a 'race' but I wish it had have been. Maybe the trains might have been a bit closer. :o) CN 4529 is westbound down the old CN Burford Sub with a long string of hoppers as rather slowly around the bend comes B&O 4815, C&O 3885 and 4828 with the steel train to Nanticoke. It is on the TH&B Waterford Sub., and not long out of Hamilton. This was the steel train's first run on the TH&B. Both tracks have been since removed, one is of course a walking trail now...........
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Caption: Not really a 'race' but I wish it had have been. Maybe the trains might have been a bit closer. :o) CN 4529 is westbound down the old CN Burford Sub with a long string of hoppers as rather slowly around the bend comes B&O 4815, C&O 3885 and 4828 with the steel train to Nanticoke. It is on the TH&B Waterford Sub., and not long out of Hamilton. This was the steel train's first run on the TH&B. Both tracks have been since removed, one is of course a walking trail now...........

Photographer:
A.W.Mooney [2134] (more) (contact)
Date: 11/07/1983 (search)
Railway: Canadian National (search)
Reporting Marks: CN 4529 (search)
Train Symbol: unknown (search)
Subdivision/SNS: CN Burford Sub. (search)
City/Town: Brantford (West Brant) (search)
Province: Ontario (search)
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18 Comments
  1. Re-reading an old post from Lance Brown, I stand corrected that this was not the first Nanticoke train, but rather the first using this power leased for the purpose.

  2. Arnold Arnold Arnold. You’ve outdone yourself. This is fantastic and a one of a kind image. I don’t imagine the Burford sub saw many trains even in 1983 and to time it with another train, side by side like this departing Brantford, the TH&B also a “branchline” is striking lightning.

  3. You think ?? Thanks.:o)

  4. Great shot Arnold! I’ve been to this location a number of times over the years but unfortunately never got a train here. Today it is almost unrecognizable :(

  5. I don’t imagine too many high-hoods had the noodle on sides, honestly the first time I saw one. Great photo!

  6. Well this is one fantastic shot. They would have run parallel for a fair distance through this area. That couldn’t have happened too many times! There’s no rail trail here, but just behind this location both the CN and TH&B are rail trails (south of Colborne St. W.), although the CN rail trail ends just outside of Brantford.

  7. Wow, I had no idea any hi-nose Geep’s wore that paint scheme.

  8. Thanks, Smith. To be honest with you I was so worked up trying to catch the Nanticoke that I had no idea that CN local was out there until I chanced this location. Sometimes I got lucky.
    And I wasn’t even on a lunch break.

  9. This is incredibly cool.

  10. wow! Noodle and the high nose on the geep and a wee stripe behind the cab like the scheme that come many years after! So here we have history, foretelling, a perfectly timed meet, leased power…this ones got to go to the top of the list!!!! Nicely done Sir!

  11. Could I suggest that the Steel Train ‘Photo Bombed’ the shot. :)

  12. Funnnneeeee !!!

  13. I just have to say this photo is by far one of my most favourite on this site. It’s lightning in a bottle – two branchline operations side by side and now both abandoned? I imagine the steel train was daily when it ran but the Burfurd couldn’t have been all that often..

  14. Thanks, Mr. Host. It sure cries out for digital sharpness, doesn’t it?

  15. Arnold, I’m sure a good scan and processing can bring it right out. :) I’m always hopeful. But I think it’s fine as it is!

  16. I’ve seen this incredible image before but it just popped up on my favourites banner and I’m blown away anew. I have a question: what route did the Waterford sub take from this location back to the bridge over the Grand River (now called the Plywood Patch Bridge) just west of the old TH&B Brantford station. I’m scratching my head – it looks like it’s all houses that look old enough to have still been there back in the 80’s.

  17. There have been some houses built on the right of way, so it is hard to spot in a few areas. After crossing the Grand River, the track cuts through the neighbourhood running parallel / between Richardson St. and Walnut St. After a few blocks the track turns west, parallel to Welsh St. on the south side and then it crossed Colborne St. W. On the west side of Colborne St. W. you can see the right of way better, where the TH&B and CN run parallel on the sweeping curve is where Arnold took the photo, near where both tracks crossed Colborne St. W. It’s that both the CN and TH&B both crossed Colborne St. W. twice. Brantford drivers must have loved that!

  18. Thanks so much for that description, sir ! I’ve never been able to find a map online showing the route. Mystery solved. :-)

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